May 2008

Tibet's Legal Right to Autonomy

by Paul Harris

The Chinese government claims Tibet as an “inalienable” part of its territory, and anyone who questions this is subject to vitriolic attacks by the official Chinese media. If they are themselves Chinese and live in China, they are “splittists” and liable to be imprisoned. Those from outside China are “anti-China” and “interfering in China’s internal affairs.”

However, to the Tibetans and most people in the world outside China who are familiar with Tibet’s situation, this is an international problem crying out for a mediated solution. Therefore one must start with how international law might support Tibetans’ rights to self-determination.

Nobody disputes that the Tibetans are a distinct people with their own language and culture, who form a large majority of the population of Tibet. Moreover, Tibet is controlled by the Chinese government by means of military occupation for the benefit of the Chinese state. Tibet is a country “under foreign military occupation, and its people are subject to alien subjugation, domination and exploitation” within the meaning of the United Nations Resolutions on Colonial Peoples and on Friendly Relations. The severity of the repression the Tibetans have undergone, combined with the threadbare nature of China’s territorial claim to Tibet, mean that if the universal right of peoples to self-determination has any meaning, it must extend to Tibet.

Self-determination

By the time the U.N. was set up after World War II, it was generally recognized that peoples had the right of self-determination. Article 1.2 of the United Nations Charter states that the purposes of the United Nations include the development of friendly relations among nations based on respect for the principle of self-determination of peoples. It can therefore be said that all states which have become members of the U.N. by ratifying the United Nations Charter—including China—have accepted the principle of respect for the self-determination of peoples.

The United Nations Charter was followed by the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. The rights in the Universal Declaration were elaborated in two more detailed international covenants which, unlike the Declaration itself, are treaties intended to have legal force. Article 1 of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights states: “All peoples have the right to self determination. By virtue of that right they may freely determine their political status.” The ICCPR has been ratified by 161 of 192 United Nations member countries. Five other countries, including China, have signed but not ratified. A nation which is a signatory of a international treaty, such as the ICCPR, is obliged under international law to “refrain from acts which would defeat the purpose and object of the treaty.” China is therefore bound, both by its adherence to United Nations Charter and by its signature of the ICCPR, to respect the principle of self-determination of peoples.

However, there was no consensus about what the right to self-determination meant when it was included in the ICCPR. Western countries were generally reluctant to include it, but felt obliged to do so in response to the aspirations of recently independent countries to end European colonialism in those places where it still existed.

Since the ICCPR came into effect in 1976 there has been widespread concern that if the right to self determination in Article 1 is applied literally, it would lead to the break-up of many existing states. This applies particularly to Africa, whose national boundaries are mostly colonial-era constructs, but also to numerous other states with ethnic minority populations who form a majority in particular regions. A consensus emerged that the right to self-determination for the purposes of ICCPR Article 1 applies only to entire populations living in independent states, entire populations of territories yet to receive independence and territories under foreign military occupation.

This is a restrictive definition which excludes numerous groups who would in ordinary language be regarded as “peoples.” It gives no encouragement to some peoples with a long history of struggle for independence, such as the Kurds.

China’s present control over Tibet dates from 1950 when the People’s Liberation Army invaded Tibet and defeated the Tibetan Army at Chamdo. China claims that Tibet was already part of China when it invaded, based on a claim to sovereignty over Tibet by the Qing imperial dynasty dating from the 18th century. More recently China has claimed that its rule over Tibet can be traced to the rule of Tibet by the Mongols—known in China as the Yuan dynasty.

There are at least three major historical difficulties with China’s claim. Firstly, it is doubtful whether the relationship between the Qing and the Yuan on the one hand, and Tibetans on the other, was really one of sovereign and subjects. The Kangxi Emperor occupied Tibet in 1720. After his death in 1722 this occupation continued under his successor the Yongzheng Emperor until 1728, and there were further Chinese invasions in 1750 and 1792. However, after the end of the occupation in 1728, and after each of the later invasions, the Chinese armies withdrew and Tibet had virtually complete independence in practice.

Secondly, neither dynasty made Tibet a part of metropolitan China. If it was a political relationship at all, it was one of dependency—what today we call a colonial relationship. It is therefore a basis for concluding that Tibet is a colony and so entitled to self-determination.

Thirdly, and most importantly, there was no relationship—either similar to that between Tibet and the Qing dynasty, or similar to the modern concept of sovereignty—between Tibet and the Chinese Republic, which succeeded the Qing dynasty in 1911. In 1912 the 13th Dalai Lama made a formal declaration of Tibetan independence. Although the Chinese Republic responded by laying claim to Tibet, it never exercised any control over it, save for certain far eastern regions where there had always been an ill-defined borderland. Tibet was entirely independent of foreign control between 1911 and 1950.

Even if China’s historical claim was much stronger than it is, this would not provide a justification for invasion of an independent country. Most countries were at one time under alien rule. In 1911 Ireland was under British rule, as it had been for centuries, Finland was ruled by Russia and Korea was ruled by Japan. The setting up of the United Nations was expressly intended to prevent the kind of aggressive wars, based on spurious or doubtful claims to historical rule or cultural identity, pursued by both Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan.

China has frequently attempted to justify its invasion on the basis that Tibetan society was feudal and backward, and that China therefore brought liberation to the Tibetan peasantry from feudal domination. Scholars agree that the pre-1950 Tibetan regime was backward. One aspect of its backwardness was its failure to appoint ambassadors to other countries or to apply to join the United Nations until invasion by China was imminent. However this failure was not due to lack of independence but due to the absence of a clear sense of the need for a modern state to maintain relations with other states.

At the risk of stating the obvious, the fact that a country is backward cannot justify invading it. Backwardness was often advanced as a justification for 19th century colonialism, what Rudyard Kipling called “The White Man’s burden” when he encouraged the United States to colonize the Philippines. The fact that China relies on the “backwardness” argument to support its occupation of Tibet is a further indication of a classic colonial occupation.

One month after China invaded Tibet on Oct. 7, 1950, the Tibetan government appealed for help to the U.N. No assistance was forthcoming, and Tibetan forces were easily overwhelmed by the Chinese, with the bulk of the Tibetan Army surrendering at Chamdo.

After the surrender the Chinese Government embarked on what would now be called a “charm offensive” in Tibet. Tibetans were given money by People’s Liberation Army representatives, and encouraged to accept Chinese occupation on the understanding that their traditional way of life would be unchanged and that Tibet would enjoy a high degree of autonomy.

In 1951, China and representatives of the Dalai Lama signed the “17 point agreement for the Peaceful Liberation of Tibet.” It provides that “the Tibetan people have the right of exercising national regional autonomy under the unified leadership of the Central People’s Government” (Article 3); that “the Central People’s Government will not alter the existing political system in Tibet” (Article 4), and “will not alter the established status, functions and powers of the Dalai Lama” (Article 4).

These autonomy provisions were never observed. The Chinese Communist Party rules Tibet, as it rules China, through a centralized party organization, whereby each organ of government is shadowed by an organ of the party. These party organs are accountable only to the Chinese Communist Party headquarters in Beijing. In Tibet the new Chinese authorities insisted on taking all important decisions and interfered on an increasing scale with the daily life of Tibetans. In response to the harshness of Chinese rule, the Tibetans rose in revolt in 1958. The revolt was easily crushed by China, and in 1959 the 14th Dalai Lama and some 80,000 other Tibetans fled into exile in India.

The severity of Chinese repression in Tibet since that date is well-documented. There is severe repression of Tibetan Buddhism, which in 1997 was labeled as a “foreign culture.” Virtually all classes in secondary and higher education are taught in Chinese, not Tibetan, resulting in a high drop-out rate among Tibetans. Urban development has generally benefited Chinese immigrants, large numbers of whom have moved to Tibet and now comprise about 12% of the population.

Tibetans are routinely detained for long periods without charge or sentenced to long prison sentences for peacefully advocating independence or maintaining links with the Dalai Lama. Torture and ill-treatment in detention is widespread. Freedom of expression is severely restricted. Peaceful political demonstrations are invariably broken up and their participants arrested. Tibetan culture is treated as inferior to Chinese culture, and most key posts in the government and the economy are held by Chinese. Those few Tibetans who are able to enter Chinese government service do so at the cost of alienation from their own people and culture. Tibet’s environment and natural resources are ruthlessly exploited in the interests of China. Overall the situation bears marked similarities in all these respects to the situation of Algeria under the French or of Uzbekistan and Kyrgyzstan under Soviet Russian rule.

Tibet’s status has been given renewed topicality by the recent independence of Kosovo. The recognition of Kosovo would seem to extend the right of self-determination beyond the traditional colonial or foreign occupation situation. Kosovo was never a colony, and the Serbian Army had withdrawn long before the independence issue was determined. The only coherent legal basis for recognizing the exercise of self-determination by the Kosovo people in the form of an independent state is that, prior to that independence and while under Serbian rule, the Kosovar Albanians were subject to “alien subjugation, domination and exploitation.”

If Kosovo has a right to self-determination, the right of Tibet is infinitely stronger. The catalogue of gross oppression, the second class citizen status of Tibetans under Chinese rule, and the identity of Tibet as a country are all much clearer than in Kosovo’s case.

Autonomy and independence

Self-determination need not mean independence. In many situations, autonomy within a larger nation state offers the best of both worlds, combining the benefits of being part of a large state in terms of defense, foreign relations and economic opportunity, with preservation of local laws, customs and culture from outside interference. Hong Kong is a good example.

The Dalai Lama has repeatedly said that he favors autonomy for Tibet within China, provided that it is meaningful autonomy. Such is his authority with the Tibetan people that they would probably support autonomy in any referendum in which he expressed support for it. However unless there is a change in Chinese government thinking, real autonomy does not appear to be on offer. This is shown by the continuing aggressive denunciation and misrepresentation of the Dalai Lama by Chinese official spokespersons.

Unless real autonomy is offered, self-determination in Tibet is bound to mean independence. China may hold down the Tibetans by force for a long time, but, as the example of Ukraine and Russia shows, even hundreds of years of repression is unlikely to extinguish the longing for self-determination among what are, incontrovertibly, a people.

Mr. Harris is a Hong Kong barrister and founding chairman of the Hong Kong Human Rights Monitor. This essay is adapted from an article originally commissioned and approved by the magazine of the Hong Kong Law Society, and then rejected as too sensitive after an extraordinary meeting of the society’s editorial board.

comments (38)
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Tsering @ 2008-06-03 05:01:36
for those who call Mr. Harris article,foreign media/academic biased should start criticizing the CCP for the biased information and lies in form of propaganda that it spreads to it's people,primarily for the communist survival rather than concern of its people...as for the grievances that Tibetans face,it has every right to seek a genuine solution that protects it's rights and freedom as much as every sensible Chinaman ,whether mainland or foreign born who should demand basic human rights and democracy for their fellow being in China. Why do you support so much the line taken by CCP in relation to Tibet?Is it because of your HAN Chauvinism /superiority in the present growing power of China or your lack of moral support and concern for the suppressed people in modern day society?Do you only care of economic interest that is taking place in China while forgetting the millions who lack any political right and in many cases also economic and cultural rights? Supporters for autonomy in Tibet or anywher else , I think truly believes that freedom and rights that must be guaranteed to the underprivileged in Society.So instead of arguing where International law or universal human rights is fit for Asian society,you should start caring for your people by demanding for more rights rather than thinking of only economic gain and stability.
Josie Nguyen @ 2008-05-15 09:30:24
Thank you Tenzin for this link (http://youtube.com/watch?v=xTVgGetarts). After listening very carefully to this speaker (Arjia Rinpoche) who himself is a Tibetan monk and a political refugee in the US, I can't help but think that many of the problems he spoke about on Tibetans' grievances are actually not different from the many grievances that Han Chinese have with their government - corruptions at the local level and the twisted manner in which local officials apply laws laid down by the central government. These corrupt officials probably would do the same thing to Han Chinese if they have the same opportunity to twist the same law to extract money from their same Han Chinese. The complication comes when the abusive official is Han Chinese and the victim is Tibetan and the issue of corruption suddenly becomes one between Hans and Tibetans and not simply a matter of abusive officials. Another (Tibetan) woman speaker who also references to the difinition of "a people" by the UN and the legal concept of "self-determination" similar to Mr. Harris'. Again, this may be fine for academic purposes, but for real life political operations, it has absolutely ZERO value. Because, if we were to accept these concepts, even Latinos in California will have the same right to "self determine" within the USA, and needless to say, Aboriginals in Canada, the US and Australia will have the same right; Ditto for Arabs who are now citizens of Israel inside Israel. So, are we prepared to advocate that on behalf of Latinos, Aboriginals and Arab Israelis (not Arabs, but Arab Israeli)?
Josie Nguyen @ 2008-05-15 07:55:59
I wish many of the Chinese readers who posted their comments on Mr. Harris' article could refrain from using foul language. But again, this shows just how much Westerners just don't understand what patriotism means on the streets of Asia, and not just China. Those Asians who oppose China are applying the same standard of patriotism common to Asians. Next time if Westerners pick an issue targeting them, say India or Tibetan history, just witness what's happening on the streets of Pakistan towards America, I wouldn't be surprised that Indians and Tibetans would react just as strongly as ordinary Chinese have reacted. I for one disagree vehemently with Mr. Harris' personal opinion dressed up in pretentious legal arguments, but I would put more emphasis on debunking his biases rather than launching verbal attacks towards him. You are entitled to expressing your negative emotions towards Mr. Harris, which I think is totally justified, but may I suggest that we exercise some self control.
richard @ 2008-05-15 01:50:24
its not the chinese who are to blame but the government...the victim is the people and the government of china is culprit of their sufferings...
Brian @ 2008-05-12 05:05:09
The United States is a retard for not controlling religion in her country. I mean just look at the Mormon religion in Utah which allows old men to have sex with kids and Scientology, a religion created by a sci-fi writer. Why the hell China should allow religious freedom to Tibetian Buddhism when the religion is about serfdom and slavery? If China gives autonomy to Tibet, Tibet is just doing to be another theocracy like Iran. That is the last thing the world want to see. So screw autonomy for Tibet.
Tenzin @ 2008-05-12 00:47:31
I am shocked at Mr. Bevin Chu's statement where he compares Scotland and Tibet, concluding that the world shouldnt care about what happens in Tibet. Does he know the brutal oppression and denial of basic human rights that is happening in Tibet? It is incredible that an intelligent and educated person can say something so heartless towards the suffering of the Tibetan people. I hope Chinese people can gain more compassion towards suffering of others! Thank you. http://youtube.com/watch?v=xTVgGetarts
谭wuzhuang @ 2008-05-11 21:35:54
i know exactly what's the author's purpose to write this paper, but i have to tell you that all you said and did will be in vain. take back the so called "freedom,self-determination,international law……",come to china, come to have a visit to tibet, you wil find out the reson why this paper will be in vain!
czhang @ 2008-05-11 21:00:38
igorance and arrogance, disgusting hypocrites! why not talking about HAWAII?
chinabright @ 2008-05-09 11:21:07
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tsering @ 2008-05-09 04:12:01
I think this was a very good article. China is fragile. Its existence in its current form is purely based on the use of force and military. And the Chinese are aware of this fact, thats why they can't stand even a slightest hint of Tibetans have a separate and distinct identity and culture. I always consider China to be a real 'China', already fragile and ready to break. It will happen eventually. Its only a matter of time.
Linkagewell @ 2008-05-08 12:54:43
I have read Mr Paul Harris article. First, the Tibet is never a country since history. Since the the Tibet form the tribe, the depend Chinese government to protect them from other nation's invade. The Tibet affair is purely China's inner affair. So your article is interfering in China’s internal affairs.” You are stand in the opposition of the Chinese people. You should visit Tibet. If you have been there you will know that without Dalai lama, the Tibet people live very happy. Yes I agree with you that nobody disputes that the Tibetans are a distinct people with their own language and culture, who form a large majority of the population of Tibet. In America, the Indians are a distinct people with their language and culture, who form a large majority of the popolation of many states. Why do not you persuade American government to allow the Indian to establish a country?
Josie Nguyen @ 2008-05-07 23:54:15
I'd also like to comment that a common practice of Western media, of which FEER and Mr. Harris are representative, is that somehow you can compartmentalize political issues even for complex and controversial subjects like Tibet. The arguement usually goes something like this, the sins that we Westerners committed in the past and continues to committing to date have no relevance to our condemning you (China and other countries) for what you have done to Tibet. This may be acceptable in the realm of narrow legal technicality, but it has absolutely NO traction in the political arena, especially that this line of reasoning concerns with matters of morality. What the West is saying is that "do as I say" and "what I do to others is none of your business". Would anyone on earth be so stupid to subscribe to this? And yet Western media expects Chinese people to follow that, and if they don't, the Western media call them zenophobic.
Kinjal @ 2008-05-07 10:59:16
To all those chinese people who do no agree wih this article, Please do chin-chin-choo in China!!. The world is not blind!! China has always been a cheate rand a fraud - it once pretended to have very good relationship with India, and attacked from behind - then it was not lucky. It was striked with immense force and had to shamelessly go back. And now when Tibetans want their own share of independence, the so-called educated Chinese mass do want to accept it. They want to see only those things which Chinese media is showing them!! Go Tibet go!! Have yr share of win and fight for the Freedom. The whole world is with u!!
hengyi.zhuang @ 2008-05-07 10:18:30
Mr Paul Harris, do you want to go to have a trip to Tibet? i do admire your imagination, but next time please use your own eyes to see what Tibet is like, and ask what the life of Tibetens is like. you are more suitable to the job as a novelist hehe......
szycm @ 2008-05-07 10:10:42
Do you know how Dalai Lama was entitled and when it was happening? Did you go to Tibet for ever once?
szycm @ 2008-05-07 10:02:17
Can you explain how Western slaughter native Indians then occupied the whole land? It's very interesting that before you formed a so-called country, Tibet already becomes part of China. Can you explain what forms a country in history sense?
Josie Nguyen @ 2008-05-07 05:48:37
Overall, this is a good piece of work but I remain unconvinced of its practicality and internal consistency. Let's look at several passages: Mr. Harris wrote: "Self-determination need not mean independence. In many situations, autonomy within a larger nation state offers the best of both worlds, combining the benefits of being part of a large state in terms of defense, foreign relations and economic opportunity, with preservation of local laws, customs and culture from outside interference. Hong Kong is a good example." *** Essentially, self-determination as explained by the author would mean Tibet will get all the benefits and not have to pay for any of the costs. Hong Kong was accorded the status because it can pay its own way and not only that it is a net benefit to the Chinese state. Before Canada introduced the Clarity Act under then Prime Minister Jean Chretien, Jacque Parizeau the leader of the PQ Party pushed for a referendum for Quebec independence with similar provisions; meaning getting all the benefits of associating with English Canada but paying none of the costs on the basis of an independent Quebec, and it failed. By the way, the Canadian Prime Minister who led the fight against Quebec independence is 100% French himself. Again, Mr Harris also asserts: "However, after the end of the occupation in 1728, and after each of the later invasions, the Chinese armies withdrew and Tibet had virtually complete independence in practice." *** So the Chinese invaded Tibet for fun and with no expectation of keeping it as part of the empire? It defies common sense. And here's another passage: "Thirdly, and most importantly, there was no relationship—either similar to that between Tibet and the Qing dynasty, or similar to the modern concept of sovereignty—between Tibet and the Chinese Republic, which succeeded the Qing dynasty in 1911. In 1912 the 13th Dalai Lama made a formal declaration of Tibetan independence. Although the Chinese Republic responded by laying claim to Tibet, it never exercised any control over it, save for certain far eastern regions where there had always been an ill-defined borderland. Tibet was entirely independent of foreign control between 1911 and 1950. " *** Of course, that's the period when China was embroiled in a civil war and the war against Japanese occupation. But does it negate China's claim of sovereignty over Tibet? Another important political reality on the ground is that if the territory is contiguous to the country that is laying the claim of sovereignty, it's unlikely that colonial conventions will apply. Just witness the problem between Jewish settlers in the West Bank and the Palestinian struggle. It's easier to give up colonies far away than to give up territories that are contiguous to your own. I agree that the Chinese government should do more, much more to maintain Tibetan culture but the world should pressure China to do it on the ground that it's the right thing to do and it's good for China. The Chinese government should also mandate Han businesses some type of employment quota for Tibetan natives as a temporary and transitional measure to build up local Tibetan strengths in economic development. The government should also limit Han migrations to Tibet so that Han Chinese will always be a minority in Tibet. Currently, it stands at 12% and I think 20% should be the upper limit. If Canada, the United States and Australia would not grant (sovereignty) independence for Canadian, American and Australian Aboriginals, why is it fair for Western liberals to insist that China must do so with respect to Tibet? As to Western Hawks, they don't give a damn to Tibet's issues, they simply want to bring down China and Tibet is just one of the means to do that. *** I also want to take this opportunity to take issue with FEER in regards to this essay series. It seems to me that all essays are for Tibet and against China and this further reinforces ordinary Chinese people's view that Western journalists are simply ganging up on China. This is also bad editorial practice. Please, Western journalists, do not be so self-righteous to dismiss the feelings of ordinary Chinese. I'm for Tibet, I'm for China but I'm against Western media on this particular issue.
mhsu @ 2008-05-06 13:20:16
This is one of the better pieces I've read on this topic. I pretty much agree with the legal analysis, but it doesn't reflect the political realities. International law has rarely stopped nations from violating all sorts of rights and rules, Abu Ghraib is a good example. As a Chinese person, I do wish the Chinese leaders would be more open to negotiating with the Dalai Lama. Tibet has quite a weak hand. The worst case scenario for China is having to get out of Tibet and lose some face along the way. For the Tibetans, there is the catastrophic scenario of ending up like the Native Americans. The Dalai Lama is quite wise to realize this, so it's quite frustrating to see the Chinese leaders not even attempt to reach a mutually agreeable solution. I just don't see what the problem is with a HK solution. I do, however, have pretty strong feelings about the inflammatory words from Western media and politicians. Nobody knows much about the internal decision-making process of national leaders (whether Wen Jiabao or GW Bush), but it does no good to hurl insults that will only strengthen the hawkish faction.
wang bin @ 2008-05-06 12:39:49
Rather telling that many of the reactionary postings here use the argument, "the west did it first" and the US attack on Iraq to somehow support the right for China to do the same. Since when did a crime justify a crime? And in any case, yes, there is a case for US breach of international law in invading Iraq - which has been widely discussed in the media, oh sorry, at least in countries where there is indeed a free media. And with a keen interest in human rights, i'm sure Mr Harris is just as critical of the Bush administration's human rights abuses regarding Guatanamo and use of torture, phone tapping, etc.
bury @ 2008-05-06 09:37:03
西藏永远是中国不可分割的一部分!!! 任何怀有分裂中国图谋都是可耻的!!达赖集团不是为了西藏的自由而是为了维护自己奴隶主的统治地位!!! 中国政府所做的才促进了西藏的进步!!! 把奥运与西藏问题联系在一起是可耻的!!
Ting Ting Ma @ 2008-05-06 05:38:21
I am not sure how bringing up the issues of Hawaii, Blacks, Quebec, etc., is related to Tibet? Mr. Harris has provided an expert opinion as a historian and a legal scholar to the topic. I believe his arguments are strong. It certainly is different from what we have been taught and what the People's Daily and the PRC propagates. We all know the credibility of the PRC, if we know that the government lies about all the other matters that we can test and verify, why are we so hung up on the issue of Tibet? Why do we so blindly accept only the Chinese government version of the history? Is it just blind faith? Time to use the opportunities we have to access multiple sources and make up our own mind. Bevin Chu is not credible. He is an architect. I can accept his opinion on buildings but not on history. We must accept the facts regardless of where it comes from. And if I am considered a traitor for these views, I am proud to be one.
Morgan @ 2008-05-05 18:20:04
Mr Harris not only has no sense of history he clearly has no knowledge of Chinese history. I would suggest he studies the past 1,000 years, not the last 100. Then his opinion might be of some value.
vincent @ 2008-05-05 15:10:15
The westerners never and never give up their expections ---------make the "Kosovo model"happen in China ! Those elegant westerners with a hostile heart ,they want to see a separated china !
Xu Wei JJing @ 2008-05-05 13:05:08
Everyone is entitled to their opinion - Mr Harris and the various commenters on this page included. I found his essay to be carefully presented, even if selective as to the evidence. Some of the opinions above are more vitriolic, some more reasonable. In the last weeks, I have had conversations with Chinese (from China, HK, TW) and non-Chinese alike - and encountered a variety of 'opinions'. Unfortunately, I have come away from many of these conversations with a profound sense of gloom - the divide between two increasingly polarised sides is too wide and deep, and there is little interest in any kind of mutual understanding. I feel that the challenge for those of us who care to write is to write persuasively and carefully - as humans, are we persuaded by reason or emotion? This applies to all of these topics - Tibet, Taiwan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Hawaii - and the people who live in these countries (whether autochthonous peoples or more recent migrants).
Tenzin Topchen @ 2008-05-05 05:15:05
I totally agree with Mr.Harris about his word for self-determination. Seeking autonomy of a country in any way is unrelated to splitting of a so called "country". And that is what His Holiness is trying to look forward for Tibet. This solution is for the betterment for both Tibet and China and to some extent for the world. So I think the Chinese govt and the people should start listening to Tibetan and come up with a solution before it is too late.
akg @ 2008-05-05 01:56:25
"Nobody disputes that the Tibetans are a distinct people with their own language and culture" That will be a lame logic - India is very pluralisitc and that logic will demand for 20+ autonomous regions in India
Michael Leong @ 2008-05-04 22:53:36
This is another reason why FEER is not my favourite magazine. The views are narrow and parochial ; I fully agree and echo the sentiments with many of the writers especially John Singh and Patrick Tan. Did Mr Haris read about the severity of the repression of the black Americans as slaves in USA? The west fear too much on the rise of China whether economic or political or cultural. !!!! Do some self reflection on this note...
Nadel @ 2008-05-04 22:16:22
Mr. Harris, you are an eloquent barrister but your logic is disturbingly erred. You are just another China-basher trying so hard to get across a biased opinion out of your tiny mind. When you are saying those inextinguishable self-determination longings, I am sure you are wise enough to know those "incontrovertible people" also including the Chinese as a whole. If you do not know the definition of China, Chinese, nationality, mentality, imaginative community, you are not qualified to write even a word about China. Please, leave us alone and let Chinese do their job. As a Han Chinese, I have visited Tibet for many times, when I talk with them, chat with them, have dinner with them in dimly lit room, I am not construed by them as Han devil or an invader. There are huge amount of Han Chinese living in the same squalid, trying to make a better life together with their Tibetan citizens. I am one of the "people" sitting down together with Tibetan at the table of brotherhood. WE ARE THE PEOPLE. We are not gonna quit from the "people".
Henry QU @ 2008-05-04 13:55:52
The "Kosovo model" should not be cited as an example, as it was not voted by the "entire populations living in independent states", besides it is a very controversial issue only accepted by very few states with a special purpose. A counter-example is Norther Ireland, which is voted to associated with England only by the people immigrated from London. It means nothing to me.
Chen Min @ 2008-05-04 10:21:44
Dear Harris, your article is full of bias and ignorance for China and Tibet's history. when USA invaded Iraq, why you don't bring forth your "international law". what you said"Autonomy", when you see western advocate"Autonomy" in Kosovo, your meaning is it will be the future of Tobet. Your arrogance and parochialism will activize Chinese rage towards you and your nation. You think you know more Chinese history and Chinses status, it is babbling, I would like to ask if you can know more than Chinese who live this country and region. Don't let your bias shade eyse of equity and truth. Last month I ever went to TIbet by myself, a Tibeten ever said me in Lahsa, he express deep regret and astoundment for own riot. So before you release this article, I suggest you should better go to Tibet to visit , and know more history in Tibet. Don't act blindly according to your own idea and bias.
colin @ 2008-05-04 00:52:37
i can not agree with what the honorable writer's saying. The angle we chinese people on this world is a little bit differ from writer's angle. As ordinary citizen of china, we chinese take all distict within china as a whole and hope it would not be divided ever and never. we have suffered a lot in our history, and it is a common knowledge within our heart that china,our mother land, can not be devided any more. I hope Mr. harris can notice our agony of the past and our dream of the future. As to the tibet, we support the local's culture as we support our culture inerland. If you have been to china, you will find that even two little villages, quite near from each other, have their difference in toung and have their own village culture. and we support the culture and even spread it all over china. We chinese, 56 nationals, have lived for centuries, we understand each other, know each other, and especially we know how to activating each national's wisdom to reach our dream of a cordial and harmonious atmosphere. and i think all human's do is for an aim of an united earth of cordial and harmonious atmosphere. Dear Mr. Harrison, Just as we respect the nature. though we can see from human's angle, the nature has many faults and unsatisfied points, and even beyond imagin. But it exists for a long time. and so harmonious it is, seldom will human have the wisdom to arrange all for the nature. especially, the nature is always on the change to the better side.
Ting Wong @ 2008-05-03 14:20:23
By Bevin Chu, December 3, 1999

(Selected from Antiwar.com)

Bevin Chu is an American architect of Chinese descent registered to practice in Texas. Currently living and working in Taiwan, Chu is the son of a retired high-ranking diplomat with the ROC (Taiwan) government. His column, "The Strait Scoop," now appears Fridays at Antiwar.com.

(more information by Bevin Chu)

HISTORY ACCORDING TO HOLLYWOOD

Humanitarian Interventionists and Benevolent Global Hegemonists, most of whom lack even a rudimentary understanding of China's long and complex history, share a particularly nasty trait. Many of these Globocops imagine because they have downloaded a few pages of separatist propaganda from tibet.org, and shed a tear or two while watching "Seven Years in Tibet," that qualifies them as China experts. They believe this qualifies them to pass judgment about whether China "deserves" to remain intact or be forcibly Balkanized by the World's Only Remaining Superpower. Their attitude rivals that of the most contemptible 19th century imperialists.

I have seen Mel Gibson's "Braveheart" once in the theater and several times on cable, and I never cease to be deeply moved by what screenwriting teachers term "a good story, well told." The same holds true of Neil Jordan's political biography "Michael Collins," about the famous, or infamous Irish revolutionary of the same name.

I do not however assume merely because I have enjoyed a well scripted and well produced two hours of entertainment that I have necessarily learned anything substantive about English, Scottish or Irish history. I retain enough presence of mind to recall Hollywood's record of playing fast and loose with historical facts, motivated by either commercial considerations or the filmmakers' political biases.

I certainly do not leave the theater convinced of either the rightness or wrongness of Scottish secession. Instead I remain scrupulously neutral. The issue of Scottish secession is one for the English and the Scots to settle between themselves. Why should I, who am neither an Englishman nor a Scots, behave like a damned busybody and stick my nose into something which is none of my business?

Now if only the Globocops would have the decency to do likewise after watching "Kundun" or "The Wind Horse."
@ 2008-05-03 11:13:12
totally nonsense! nobody's wistful wish to split up a whole nation would come true ,never! what the article claimed is a thoroghly excuse, to my opinion! however to be honest ,there is part of truth of situation described in the article
John Singh @ 2008-05-03 09:34:31
How to define a country? Actual independence and international recognition. Tibet has none of them since 1793 when a treaty gave China the right to approve or negate the selection of Dalai Lama. Even the title of Dalai Lama was given by a Chinese emperor. If you want to return to pre-17th centuries, then where was Australia, Canada and many other countries?
li Xuechen @ 2008-05-03 08:20:03
You have opened my eyes about the true reality of Tibet. Chinese people don't know much, only what they are told by the government. They think Tibetans are backward, poor, and uneducated. It is not so the case. They have a profound philosophy and a rich history. The only thing they lack is their right to proper means of education, religion, culture, economic opportunity, and more access to the the positions of power in their own place. If they are given this, the issue of Tibet would be solved in an instant.
Patrick Tan @ 2008-05-02 23:50:22
International law? It is amazing how many people believe that this concept actually exists. Please, where was "international law" when USA invaded Iraq in 2003? When USA annexed Hawaii in 1898? When USA defeated Mexico in 1848 and imposed the Treaty of Guadeloupe-Hildalgo upon her? If there is indeed something called "international law", China is perfectly entitled to use force to crush separatists as the United States did against the rebel Confederacy's "war for self determination" in 1861. I should also point out that these so called "international laws" are simply western norms and western rules set by a western centric world. It is only natural to see the west use these rules to advance their own interests by applying them selectively against their enemies ("Evil Red China") but ignore them when it is more convenient!
Shi Rusen @ 2008-05-02 14:38:57
Please just true the history, don't add your opinions to lead people to attact Chinese. Because more your opinions are seemingly in right but actually at variance. It's your bias.
 
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